In my last posting I was asked how I got that main wave. Hopefully this photo will show how I do it. I just roll perm rods across my head in the same direction. Because my hair is all one length... or rather the "shortest" legnth is still below my chin, the wave will naturally form before the curly ends when being brushed out. Here I am wearing 6 rods, but I have achieved this with as little as 3. Good luck!